
Why did old timer free flight models use lifting horizontal stabilizers? Why did they go out of favor?
Definition
All the time I come across two entirely different definitions for the term “lifting stabilizer”. One is totally unrelated to what I want to talk about here.
A very common definition is a horizontal stabilizer that has an airfoil shape to it. That is a good thing to have, but it has nothing to do with the definition that I am interested in right now.
The other definition is about a horizontal stabilizer that contributes to the lift of the airplane as a whole. Tails on airplanes are normally pushing down. That is a key requirement in order for them to have pitch stability. A lifting tail is actually pushing up, just like the main wing.
Reading online discussion threads on the subject, I see the participants of these threads being very confused about what they are actually talking about. Someone will make a comment referring to one definition, and the very next comment in the same thread the poster assumes that they are talking about the other definition. Read very carefully what others are saying on this subject, otherwise you are risking becoming very confused, too.
Old Timer Free Flight Models
Sixty years ago, radio control systems did not exist and control line was in its infancy. Free flight was king. Compared to modern power plants, the engines that these models used were unbelievably heavy. I have calculated that a modern engine of the same weight produces seven times more power. Put another way, the engines weighed seven times more than they do now.
I do not know where the idea originated, but somebody somewhere along the way decided that they would rather have the tail contribute to the airplane’s lift rather than push down as they normally do. This is understandable, given the very heavy power plants.
Many years ago I read in a model airplane book how a lifting tail could not possibly be stable. This was in Martin Simons’ Model Aircraft Aerodynamics. Even then, I knew enough about model airplane design to see that the logic just did not add up. It was misinformation and misguided statements like these that led me to write my own model airplane design book, so I suppose something good came out of it.
Static Pitch Stability
For an airplane to be stable in pitch, its design must meet two requirements. I am talking about static pitch stability, which is what keeps the airplane pointing in the same direction. These requirements apply to all airplanes, regardless of how their wings are configured.
First, there must be an increasing force that pushes the nose down as the airplane is pitched up from a wind gust. Similarly, you must have an increasing force that pushes the nose of the airplane up after a gust has pushed it down. The most common way to get both of these is by putting the center of lift behind the center of gravity of the airplane.
Second, the tail must be pushing down when the airplane is in a dive and the wing is not producing any lift. Otherwise, the airplane will not be able to pull out of a dive on its own. This is called positive decalage. In other words, the angle of attack of the tail in back must be less than the angle of attack of the wing in front. If the airplane is in a climb, gravity will tend to pull the nose down, so decalage is not needed in that case.
Canards Are Not a Joke!
The French word canard means duck or hoax. It originated from the trick used by parent ducks to make believe they have a broken wing as a tactic to lure away a predator from their ducklings.
A canard airplane has a large wing in the back and a small wing in the front. Both contribute to the airplane’s lift. These airplanes have been proven to be perfectly stable.
Do you see where I am going with this? A conventional airplane with a lifting tail is aerodynamically very similar to a canard. For that matter, it is also very similar to a tandem wing airplane.
Lifting Tail Pros and Cons
To be stable, a canard has to have a higher wing loading on the front wing. Just like a regular airplane, the center of gravity has to be forward of the center of lift. Similarly, an airplane with a lifting tail has to have the center of gravity relatively far forward. A natural consequence of this is that their horizontal stabilizers can contribute very little to the total airplane’s lift.
I do not know the reasoning behind this, but the horizontal stabilizers on these old timer models are huge. Instead of a normal area of about 20% of the wing, they have an area more like 30 or even 40%. This pushes the overall center of lift of the airplane back towards the tail. An unintended consequence is that lowering the flaps (if it has them) will make the model pitch up. This is the opposite problem of a canard, where deploying flaps on the main wing pitches the airplane down. A modern computerized radio transmitter can be used to compensate for this.
One of the main advantages of a canard design, stall resistance, does not apply to a lifting tail design. The front wing must always stall first, but in these designs it is responsible for most of the lift. The stall is just like a stall on a conventional airplane.
On the flip side, a disadvantage of canards is their higher stall speeds. The highly loaded front wing must stall first, keeping the rear wing from reaching its maximum lift generating potential. The stall speed is not a problem with lifting tail designs.
I hear that the old free flight models also used a lifting tail for increased stability. There is a big transition between the climbing phase and the gliding phase of their flights. Both the attitude and airspeed change dramatically.
I can see a lifting tail having an edge over a conventional tail in this scenario. Since the tail lifts up, when the airplane is flying faster both the main wing and tail are contributing more to the airplane’s lift. Maybe that is the reason for the extra large tails on these models?
By the way, I have read over and over online that the reason why these models have better pitch stability is because their center of gravity is closer to their center of lift. That is just bonkers.
Conclusion
I think the main disadvantage of a lifting tail airplane design is that they are quite a bit different than a conventional airplane design. It is clear to me that the average modeler has very wrong ideas of how they really work. Even so-called experts manage to get this one wrong. The tail design and the center of gravity have to be just right, otherwise the model might not have very good pitch stability.










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I’ve also heard that large, lifting tails were used because there were restrictions on wing area in certain classes, but that the restrictions only applied to the main wing. Therefore, the larger than necessary, lifting stabs were an attempt to circumvent the rules a bit by increasing the total lifting surface area.
That is really clever. I had never heard of that, but it makes perfect sense. And they could not do a tandem wing design, since then the area of both wings would count towards the limit.
‘Way back in my single channel days I built and successfully flew a Goldberg 1/2A Skylane. The horizontal stab had a symmetrical airfoil shape. After a while I converted that plane to a 2 channel R/E configuration, and still later to a 3 channel R/E/T configuration. I found the plane to be an excellent flyer in all three configurations. It was a joy to fly.
I have a Goldberg 1/2A Jr. Falcon kit (squirrelled away from the early ’70s) that features a symmetrically airfoiled stabilizer. I expect that one will be a joy to fly with a suitable outrunner motor and a modern 4 channel radio.
It seems that Carl Goldberg was onto something good, designing his kits to feature an airfoiled horizontal stabilizer. I’d be interested in learning more about airfoiled horizontal stabilizers, how to determine the moment arm relative to the wing, how to set the decalage, etc. May I assume that the NACA 0012 airfoil would be the starting point for the design process?
Yes, the NACA 0012 would be an excellent choice. I think Carl Goldberg was onto something good, too. In most respects, fully airfoiled tails are very similar to flat plates. I am making a note about the subject. If there is enough to say about it, I will turn it into an article.
Interesting comments in the thread on lifting stabs, but most miss the point. One line of models today that utilize them is the larger Telemaster series. A stabilizer that has a positive airfoil is a lifting surface. As power is normally the primary control for altitude, the lifting tail tends to smooth this out. Normally, when the airplane is trimmed for level flight and the power is increased, additional lift is created by the wing and the airplane gains altitude. However, if the airplane has a lifting tail surface,it will counteract the wing effect by increasing down pressure on the nose the same as if you were adding down trim, thus theoretically maintaining level flight. The converse occurs if you decrease power. As you can see, the amount of lift generated by the horizontal stab in most models is probably not a perfect ratio to power, but it does perform a definitive function. In old free flight and early radio controlled single channel models, the lifting stab was another means of smoothing the transition from power on to power off. Engine down thrust was also used, but that’s another thread, TTFN & happy landings
I am not sure I understand the purpose of your comment. You just seem to be agreeing with the points I made in the article.
What about an “upside down” lifting horizontal stabilizer as in Taibi’s Pacer C Old-Timer? If you see the incredilbly short nose moment of the Pacer design, you see where the designer, Sal Taibi, was going.
To me, that is just an efficient standard horizontal stabilizer. I can imagine that having a true airfoil on there lets you use a smaller or shorter tail.
Sorry I bothered you. I was just explaining how /why the design functioned. I’ll refrain in the future. FAA CA-IGI 2173715
No bother.
This is a subject that is near and dear to my heart, ever since I was a kid and saw the plans for a Comet Sparky with that cambered airfoil on the stab. Thirty plus years later as a modeler and an aero engineer and I am still having a hard time believing that that horizontal stab is not pushing down on that model in trimmed level flight! Your arguments are interesting, and you are right to point out all of the misinformation published out there. Unfortunately much of that misinformation is a result of sloppy terminology, which makes a valid point often muddled and confusing. I hate to say it but I think you are also guilty in this case.
You start by describing one condition as a horizontal stabilizer with an “airfoil” shape to it. I believe you meant to say a “cambered airfoil”. Some might interpret “airfoil” shape to simply being streamlined, which is actually a good thing. To be even more accurate a “positive cambered airfoil” would be the best description.
In the next paragraph, you indicate that the horizontal stab is normally pushing down, which is a “key requirement in order for them to have pitch stability”. You then spend the rest of the article indicating that this is not true. Kind of confusing.
Your discussion on static pitch stability indicates two factors that must be present to be stable, basically a restoring moment and speed stability. I would argue that the two things required are the restoring moment and trimmability, or the ability to have a zero moment at a flying condition. I have had airplanes that are very weak to neutral in speed stability, but are perfectly stable in pitch.
You then get into the discussion on canards, and I must admit that you hit a nerve here. Canards are one of the least understood configurations for an aircraft (except for designers with the last name “Rutan”). The thing I am most uncomfortable with, and I think causes the greatest confusion is the wing loading/stall discussion for a canard surface. When discussing stability, the wing loading and stall aspects of a canard are irrelevant. I’m not saying that what you said is inaccurate, but it is not a factor in stability. Yes the canard is at a positive angle of attack in trimmed level flight conditions. And it is a smaller, less efficient surface than the main wing. And these factors contribute to a higher wing loading and a lower stall speed than the main wing. All factors that are important to the overall flying qualities and performance of the airframe as a whole, but not critical in pitch stability. You didn’t say it, but I have read discussions on canards where the description of their stability is because when disturbed nose up, the canard surface stalls allowing the nose to return to level flight. This is simply ridiculous. So I am just a little sensitive when these aspects are mixed in with a discussion on stability.
One last point about the whole lifting tail design argument. As I said earlier I am still not convinced. Clearly you can make the horizontal stabilizer a lifting surface, but at that point you are morphing into more of a tandem wing configuration. Playing with airfoil camber, surface area and incidence on each surface may result in a configuration that results in lift on both surfaces, but ultimately may not be more efficient (A smaller surface generating lift is typically not as efficient as a larger surface). The fact that this was done on early freeflight models (typically in the 1930′s – 1940′s) may mean the designs were based more on hope than fact. If it really was more efficient, I would think that the general aviation field or even NASA would have explored it. With all of the crazy ideas that have been tried at one time or another, I have never seen this explored in a full scale configuration.
This little complaining aside, I love your insightful videos and articles. You are doing an invaluable service to the RC community!
You are right. Cambered airfoil would have been a better term for me to use.
I brought canards into the discussion just to prove a point. The article was not intended to be a discussion about canards.
Bingo! That is exactly what it is.
I have wondered exactly the same point. I tried to justify at the end of the article why that may be so.
Great comments. Thanks.
Carlos:
Planes with “lifting stabs” generally had rearward CGs. The Civy Boy’s was on the TE http://www.thebuildingboard.com/2009/03/civy-boy.html
The reason for the “lifting stab” was to get the CG behind the Center of Lift, which is the opposite of full size planes where lifting stabs are illegal.
I wrote about this some time ago http://www.thebuildingboard.com/2008/07/lifting-stab-myth.html
When choosing an Old Timer to fly with R/C assist, I prefer models with symmetrical stabs such as the Lanzo RC Stick, Nimbus and Chief.
>The reason for the “lifting stab” was to get the CG behind the Center of Lift
Perhaps behind the center of lift of the wing, but not for the entire airplane.